C&D: "Stellantis Will Restart Hemi V-8 Production for Cars in August"

[jgilj]

I keep going back and forth on the Charger, I guess I am hopeful that the Charger can be what I would like it to be (a muscle car)... on one hand I look at the design and see a link back to the 68/69 Charger. That's arguably one of the most beautiful car designs to ever hit the street - so thats a pretty good start. But, then I see the 70 Hemi-Cuda transforming into the 74 318 Barracuda - the design and shape are the same. The problem is in the application.
There is more than one aspect that makes a car desirable, the design, the "powerplant", quality, and I will list the last aspect as features, (think of a Cadillac vs a loaded Oldsmobile - the Cadillac commands more money because it's a Cadillac).
The Charger sort of has a desirable design, but the powerplant is more like a 4 cylinder than Hemi, (some might say it has 500ish EV horses, but its not the same as ICE - not even close), the quality is an unknown at this point, but the signs are not looking good, and the features are unknown / lacking from what I am seeing.
The new Charger has large shoes to fill and the start for this design doesn't look good from where I sit...

That hood and shit scoop under hood makes me 🤮 🤮🤮

 

[Speedy!]

Sorry the body design is just very pedestrian to me. Needs an offset wheel/tires lowered etc. Maybe a performance model will be.

Interior seems to be on point save for the digital gauge screen.

 

[ButterDaGreat?]

A hemi will fit there.
Them Hurricanes are W I D E with that twin turbo setup
Maybe if they went to a FMIC, they could slim it down.
But didn't they say that Gilles wanted the Hurricane and Hemi to have the same engine mounts? Good thing you change spark plugs on top of the valve cover vs side of the head like a chevy. Headers may be a problem as well

The Hurricane, Hemi, and EV motors have the same mounting points so they could offer multiple drivetrains in the same vehicle without body modifications, the patents keep using the word "modular" over and over again. Wagoneer had Hurricanes and Hemi's in the same model year.

I heard Giles wanted to keep the ability for the Hemi to fit in the Charger so maybe that meant the engine bay is bigger than what it was meant to be?

 

[ButterDaGreat?]

Sorry the body design is just very pedestrian to me. Needs an offset wheel/tires lowered etc. Maybe a performance model will be.

Interior seems to be on point save for the digital gauge screen.

Bad part is every car will look literally exactly the same, from Pentastar to Hellcat to EV. Stellantis really watered down the car. Only thing will change is mainly the hood, badges, and some parts of the grille.

 

[1971demon]

Truth be told, back in the day... I mean WAY back in the day, I was totally in love with the various twin-turbo V-8 stuff that some of the high-end tuners were doing...


But then not only did the Hellcat power plant come into existence, but I stopped breastfeeding...


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Now that's a LIE...I have it on good information..(a close family member of yours)..that yer mother NEVER let you breast feed...was overheard sayin on more than one occasion...that rug rat aint gettin ANYWHERE near these mommy bags....

 

[Jimmy N.]

Bad part is every car will look literally exactly the same, from Pentastar to Hellcat to EV. Stellantis really watered down the car. Only thing will change is mainly the hood, badges, and some parts of the grille.

And that's a bad thing?

I wouldn't have bought a 'Cat if it was easily distinguishable from a less powerful version.

 

[MMissile]

Terrible design. Already looks 20+ years old. I see them, daily...........How the mighty have fallen.
It looks like it should have a 318 or 360 Magnum engine.

 

[MMissile]

Looks like a buck-toothed Camaro...

 

[72 440 Barracuda]

Not trying to sell anyone on it, because I'm not buying it either, but the design has some appeal to me. - the silver comes across as very pedestrian, but the black with the blacked out look and a lowered stance (which might be just the picture angle) changes my opinion some.
When I looked at the original base model 2008 Challenger vs the SRT8 model I see the same thing. When it came out I struggled with the design a little, since I am a big fan of the original Challenger styling, but my opinion changed when the SRT8 rolled out - the SRT8 filled in many of the gaps from the base model. What actually got me to pull out my wallet was the Hellcat - could the new Charger get there with a Hellcat powerplant? Not saying yes, but also not saying no...

 

[jroyk]

Extend the hood out to the grill, open up grill area for more radiator, oil, and intercooler cooling. Add some openings for air intake and heat extraction to the hood, Add rear deck spoiler. Lower it a couple inches. I believe you'd have a good-looking car.

 

[Bobo]

Extend the hood out to the grill, open up grill area for more radiator, oil, and intercooler cooling. Add some openings for air intake and heat extraction to the hood, Add rear deck spoiler. Lower it a couple inches. I believe you'd have a good-looking car.

The ICE version does have most of those changes

 

[ButterDaGreat?]

Even with ICE, it is too big. It is the same wheelbase as a Grand Cherokee L. I don't want a coupe that is bigger than my Challenger. They need to make a car with a shorter wheelbase and bringing back the Challenger would open the door for a lighter and faster SRT models in the future. The Charger Daytona is 121", Challenger was 116", Ford Mustang is 107", and the STLA L platform can go down 113" wheelbase.

113" might be the perfect balance of size and weight for a new 2 door Challenger. I just hope they don't try to make a midsized Challenger sedan out of the same body

 

[Unholy707]

By crash test baby count


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Do you think people will attempt to put their kids there?

 

[Unholy707]

Looks like a buck-toothed Camaro...

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So stupid bunch of morons

 

[Unholy707]

Even with ICE, it is too big. It is the same wheelbase as a Grand Cherokee L. I don't want a coupe that is bigger than my Challenger. They need to make a car with a shorter wheelbase and bringing back the Challenger would open the door for a lighter and faster SRT models in the future. The Charger Daytona is 121", Challenger was 116", Ford Mustang is 107", and the STLA L platform can go down 113" wheelbase.

113" might be the perfect balance of size and weight for a new 2 door Challenger. I just hope they don't try to make a midsized Challenger sedan out of the same body

challenger sedan? Banned

 

[Bobo]

Do you think people will attempt to put their kids there?

Absolutely!! People are morons!

 

[1971demon]

Do you think people will attempt to put their kids there?

I'da put you there if I was yer father

 

[Bowtie Guy]

Do you think people will attempt to put their kids there?

Only if they go into a bar for a few beers & don t want people to see their kids locked in the car

 

[Bowtie Guy]

Do you think people will attempt to put their kids there?

There was discussions about kids being able to unlock the frunk if they somehow get stuck in there

 

[Under-Pressure]

Kids will prob want to ride up there so they are not seen in it.