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I installed a full set of Demon Performance rotors and pads on my 2018 last summer and I'm still kind of reeling from sticker shock a bit.
The rotors are mechanically fine, but the amount of rust that has formed on them is disappointing.

I recently stumbled upon this kit from Racing Brake and wonder if anyone here has experience with this product.

Personally, I like the black finish of these rotors, but I'd definitely like to know if they are inferior/superior/comparable to the Demon Performance (Girodisc) ones.

Save 10% on RB 2pc Rotor Kit (400/350) for Jeep Trackhawk 2018+ & Dodge Durango SRT Hellcat (6.2L) 21+ Front & Rear (P/N 2595 & 2325) Includes Brake Pads

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I installed a full set of Demon Performance rotors and pads on my 2018 last summer and I'm still kind of reeling from sticker shock a bit.
The rotors are mechanically fine, but the amount of rust that has formed on them is disappointing.

I recently stumbled upon this kit from Racing Brake and wonder if anyone here has experience with this product.

Personally, I like the black finish of these rotors, but I'd definitely like to know if they are inferior/superior/comparable to the Demon Performance (Girodisc) ones.

Save 10% on RB 2pc Rotor Kit (400/350) for Jeep Trackhawk 2018+ & Dodge Durango SRT Hellcat (6.2L) 21+ Front & Rear (P/N 2595 & 2325) Includes Brake Pads

Thanks!

I would very much like to see a picture or two of those (the rust).

I'm developing some new rotors based on my own experience with DP rotors. While I had my own issues with DP rotors, rust was not one of them.

Our current design is based on an Inconel alloy, as such, they will not rust, they are also HALF of the weight, but if the DP rotors were expensive, you won't like ours any better... ; )

Perhaps heavy salt or Mag-Choride exposure?

As for your specific question about RB products, I don't, but I know others on the forum are using them, but I can't speak about their opinion.

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The company RB is out of the UK. I bought my AP brakes thru them for my Golf R as well as some Ceika brakes for the rear. I believe they have CC for the Hawk as well. Anything RB makes or sells is gonna be top notch.

I would think they are bassically the same as the Girodisc. Demon doesnt make them Girodisc does they just slap their name on them as Demon Rotors.....

The hat can rust on the Demons but it easy to paint just block it off with tape and spray em.
 


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The hat on DP rotors, and all that I'm aware of, are made of aluminum...

Aluminum doesn't rust...

(But it can oxidize, which typically appears as a white powder, but with anodizing, such as they are, this isn't likely)
 


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Hate rusty rotors. Spent money on wilwoods and the rusted the first day. Sucks.

Rotors on the hellcat look good, little discoloration on the hats but that's about it.
 


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I would very much like to see a picture or two of those (the rust).

I'm developing some new rotors based on my own experience with DP rotors. While I had my own issues with DP rotors, rust was not one of them.

Our current design is based on an Inconel alloy, as such, they will not rust, they are also HALF of the weight, but if the DP rotors were expensive, you won't like ours any better... ; )

Perhaps heavy salt or Mag-Choride exposure?

As for your specific question about RB products, I don't, but I know others on the forum are using them, but I can't speak about their opinion.
This is what the rotors (front) looked like after I took them off recently to investigate some odd noise I was experiencing.
The hats are indeed aluminum, but whatever alloy/material the rotors are made from don't lend themselves well to rain which is what we get here in eastern WA.
The inner vanes look terrible as does the interface between the rotor and the hats.Soaking the rotors in white vinegar overnight allowed that surface rust to lift right off, and then I cleaned them using Dawn after I abraded the surface and installed new pads.

Some surface corrosion is inevitable on brake discs because that's just the nature of the iron/steel/mystery alloy, but for the price, I was hoping for a little better cosmetic durability with these things.
Note that the retaining bolt is the incorrect spec for these brakes: They were installed by the previous owner and I have since replaced them.


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I would very much like to see a picture or two of those (the rust).

I'm developing some new rotors based on my own experience with DP rotors. While I had my own issues with DP rotors, rust was not one of them.

Our current design is based on an Inconel alloy, as such, they will not rust, they are also HALF of the weight, but if the DP rotors were expensive, you won't like ours any better... ; )

Perhaps heavy salt or Mag-Choride exposure?

As for your specific question about RB products, I don't, but I know others on the forum are using them, but I can't speak about their opinion.

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So like...how much for a pair for the front? I could put them to test under daily driver conditions.
 


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This is what the rotors (front) looked like after I took them off recently to investigate some odd noise I was experiencing.
The hats are indeed aluminum, but whatever alloy/material the rotors are made from don't lend themselves well to rain which is what we get here in eastern WA.
The inner vanes look terrible as does the interface between the rotor and the hats.Soaking the rotors in white vinegar overnight allowed that surface rust to lift right off, and then I cleaned them using Dawn after I abraded the surface and installed new pads.

Some surface corrosion is inevitable on brake discs because that's just the nature of the iron/steel/mystery alloy, but for the price, I was hoping for a little better cosmetic durability with these things.
Note that the retaining bolt is the incorrect spec for these brakes: They were installed by the previous owner and I have since replaced them.


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Mine look that way to. They work just fine tho. Does the car sit a lot? Do u drive it often?
 


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This is what the rotors (front) looked like after I took them off recently to investigate some odd noise I was experiencing.
The hats are indeed aluminum, but whatever alloy/material the rotors are made from don't lend themselves well to rain which is what we get here in eastern WA.
The inner vanes look terrible as does the interface between the rotor and the hats.Soaking the rotors in white vinegar overnight allowed that surface rust to lift right off, and then I cleaned them using Dawn after I abraded the surface and installed new pads.

Some surface corrosion is inevitable on brake discs because that's just the nature of the iron/steel/mystery alloy, but for the price, I was hoping for a little better cosmetic durability with these things.
Note that the retaining bolt is the incorrect spec for these brakes: They were installed by the previous owner and I have since replaced them.


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I have used these rotors for years. On and off track. Never had a rust problem. Like @BULL says we know of an issue or two but rust has never been one. What pads are you using? What is the red slop on the connector bolt?
 


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So like...how much for a pair for the front? I could put them to test under daily driver conditions.
I bought the whole kit, front and rear:
Demon Performance 2 Piece Brake Kit (DEMON GP10 Pads) FRONT & REAR - Solis Racing Group | Performance Parts |

This is the kit for the fronts only:

Demon Performance 2 Piece Brake Kit (DEMON GP10 Pads) Front Kit - Solis Racing Group | Performance Parts |

I can't seem to find info on what exactly the GP10 pads are in terms of material, but I can say they were dusty as hell. I just switched the fronts out for some Hawk Ceramics.
 


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Mine look that way to. They work just fine tho. Does the car sit a lot? Do u drive it often?
Thankfully it's only used for errands and general city/hwy use (no commuting) Sometimes it'll sit for a week or so in the garage. Any surface rust would have been due to rain exposure and washing.
 


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I have used these rotors for years. On and off track. Never had a rust problem. Like @BULL says we know of an issue or two but rust has never been one. What pads are you using? What is the red slop on the connector bolt?
I was using the Girodisc GP10's that came with the package bundle. I don't exactly know what those pads are comprised of, but I do know they were exceptionally dusty. I developed a disturbing clunk recently at low speeds and took the fronts apart to investigate.
Not only did the pads have some vertical slop, but I noticed a pad imprint on the backside of each rotor which makes me think that perhaps I came to a red light when they were hot at some point.
I cleaned/abraded the rotors, installed all new pin/clip/bolt hardware and a set of Hawk Ceramic pads. After bedding them in, clunk was gone and braking is as expected.

The red goo is the grease that came with the Hawk Pads, I figured I'd use it and see how it performs.
 




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