The last Hellcat rumor mill

[vortecd]

what car were they running the e85 in?

We were not there. Someone we know at the track today told us. He just said Dodge was testing e85

 

[DavidKFla]

what car were they running the e85 in?

Hellcat swapped fox body. Completely undercover.

😎😎😎😎

Followed by I have no clue.

 

[jonx96]

Still thinking about it. I wonder if this will be a direct connection package and not just a car. I am wondering if it’s something that can be an option installed by the dealer before delivery.
ford does this with the explorer. You can get different brakes before delivery but it is installed by the dealer. Just a thought. Hard to say what’ll happen

 

[Speedy!]

I'll be surprised if we find out in August.

 

[BULL]

I'll be surprised if we find out in August.

Quit with the negative waves man...

 

[Speedy!]

We'll find out some stuff, just not sure on this final edition thing.

 

[Illegal_Demon]

We will find out in August. Will it be the wondrous monster everyone wants? That's where I have my doubts. My guess is it's gonna be a fuel gimmick offering. Yes, 909hp because E85 will make it possible without any effort. Stellantis is ok with this type of FE because 0.00 research and development is involved.

That won't stop them from asking 125K for it and (many) people falling all over themselves to get one (mostly because it will be worth 250K as an insta-flip due to 250-500 units being available).

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just here to keep things real, lol.

PS: ADM's abound...

Edit: I will make one more prediction... Even if this ends up being built as a "Demon with E85" (i.e. all Demon features) it won't be notably faster in the 1/4 than the Demon, despite the apparent HP boost. This is largely due to the fact that real HP at the crank for the Demon (based on real-world dyno pulls) is already close to 900hp (not 840). So unless its a 1000hp offering, I'm betting this really will amount to a cheap, last-hurrah money-grab gimmick (and gift to greedy ADM dealers) by Stellantis.

 

[DavidKFla]

Just a comment about ADM. I'm no different than anyone else who hates ADM.
The problem is that the dealerships need to stay in business. They're no longer getting the volume kickback from Stellantis that they did in the past.
They have to make their money somewhere since that income stream is gone.

 

[BULL]

Just a comment about ADM. I'm no different than anyone else who hates ADM.
The problem is that the dealerships need to stay in business. They're no longer getting the volume kickback from Stellantis that they did in the past.
They have to make their money somewhere since that income stream is gone.

But the thing is, since they changed the pricing level of "Invoice" and "MSRP", the MSRP now has a very healthy margin in it. If that weren't the case, then maybe, and only if it were reasonable. Asking 10 or 20K over MSRP...

Bullshit(TM)

 

[DavidKFla]

But the thing is, since they changed the pricing level of "Invoice" and "MSRP", the MSRP now has a very healthy margin in it. If that weren't the case, then maybe, and only if it were reasonable. Asking 10 or 20K over MSRP...

Bullshit(TM)

I'm not paying it or do I ever intend to.

 

[Illegal_Demon]

But the thing is, since they changed the pricing level of "Invoice" and "MSRP", the MSRP now has a very healthy margin in it. If that weren't the case, then maybe, and only if it were reasonable. Asking 10 or 20K over MSRP...

Bullshit(TM)

pretty sure u are late to the trademark party here...even with your namesake!

 

[Speedy!]

Would you pay ADM on a tool from Amazon? That's kinda how I look at it.

 

[DavidKFla]

Would you pay ADM on a tool from Amazon? That's kinda how I look at it.

You never know what you're paying in regards to msrp at Amazon.

 

[Speedy!]

Sure I do.

 

[DavidKFla]

Sure I do.

You track price on everything that you buy?

 

[BULL]

If I'm spending more than about $75, I do...

 

[1971demon]

Just a comment about ADM. I'm no different than anyone else who hates ADM.
The problem is that the dealerships need to stay in business. They're no longer getting the volume kickback from Stellantis that they did in the past.
They have to make their money somewhere since that income stream is gone.

Business is business...

 

[DavidKFla]

If I'm spending more than about $75, I do...

We stopped using Amazon since we could usually find the same thing elsewhere for less money. Everything but Fiji water but when I added in the membership it was not.

 

[1971demon]

Business is business...

I don't like ADM's...and don't pay them...but I don't disagree with them...If a car...or any commodity is for sale..and there is a SUGGESTED retail price...you as a consumer...(a car in this case)..are always looking for a deal...you EXPECT a deal..a discount off MSRP..and in most cases...you get it...and your fine with it...but when it goes the other way...you squeal like a stuck pig...(as do I)..its human nature..some will begrudge a dealer for ADM's...yet buy @ msrp...then flip it for the 10/20 or more consideration they got from the dealer...but that's ok I guess...If you want the car....pay the man...if not get the fuck outta the way..yer holdin up the line of those that will pay what the market dictates...any questions...

 

[BULL]

I don't like ADM's...and don't pay them...but I don't disagree with them...If a car...or any commodity is for sale..and there is a SUGGESTED retail price...you as a consumer...(a car in this case)..are always looking for a deal...you EXPECT a deal..a discount off MSRP..and in most cases...you get it...and your fine with it...but when it goes the other way...you squeal like a stuck pig...(as do I)..its human nature..some will begrudge a dealer for ADM's...yet buy @ msrp...the flip it for the 10/20 or more consideration they got from the dealer...but that's ok I guess...If you want the car....pay the man...if not get the fuck outta the way..yer holdin up the line of those that will pay what the market dictates...any questions...

And while I agree with you, being the Capitalist that I am, the difference in a dealership is that charges ADM like this, is that they aren't actually tracking market demand, they are creating a false market and lying to you about what that market is.