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My solution to the Demon170 allocation and ADM problem.

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I don’t think a Demon owner should get any special treatment. What makes them better than the next guy?

I have a GNX bought it new if Buick came out with a new GNX I would not think or expect any special treatment.

is a Demon owner better than a v6 challenger owner? Money don’t make someone a better person most times it makes them a bigger asshole.
I think it has to do with using the Demon name. If they would have listen to me and called it Top Cat then I don't think there should be:geek:
 


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Call me when you become Stellantis CEO and implent your plan. ;)

We have two significant problems with the Demon170

  • Demon owners were lied to about Dodge never producing the Demon again.
  • Dealerships are abusing the Marketplace with ridiculous ADM

This plan will require a modest increase in planned production, but far less than previous years where HCs alone approached ~20,000-30,000 units.

~8,000-10,000 Demon170 units should do nicely

Demon owners get a voucher for access to EP pricing direct from Dodge (via the dealership of their choice). They get front of the line production scheduling. Their allocations come from the total units produced.​

This is as much as Dodge can, and should, do for reconciliation for their promise.

While I can't say for certain how many units would satisfy this demand, I would hazard 1,500-2,000 would get this done.

Demon owners have April to place their orders, This leaves May for the general public to place orders.

This leaves us with as many as 8,000 units for the open market. These get produced on a HONEST, MSRP first, higher sales prices LAST.​

This should bring the ADM into check, for the two obvious reasons, increased production/availability, AND the very REAL threat of a lost sale because 31Dec23 rolls around and all of the consequences that go with that.

If Dodge doesn't want to completely burn its bridges, they essentially have little choice to do SOMETHING, this idea, or something, but doing nothing is a problem.

If Dodge thinks they are immune to the forces of their base customers, I believe they will find out the hard way. There are plenty of examples of other companies that have felt the wrath of customers, FOR FAR LESS THAN THIS...
 


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Why should loyal base follow if they won’t be loyal to the base that makes them money.
Never be loyal to a large company. Its silly. There is no reciprocity.
 


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I think it has to do with using the Demon name. If they would have listen to me and called it Top Cat then I don't think there should be:geek:
I have the name GNX. I know that won’t be used again 🤪 39F14554-F43F-4FF8-B957-7AA8049DA48F.jpeg
 


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Word of law but even that doesn't mean anything anymore. It's more like the opinion of the judge or jury.
The jury has always been the decider of what actually occured, the fact finder. The judge adminsters the court procedure, explains the law, and interpreta it based on the facts decided by the jury. Has worked exactly this way since the founding of this nation. I see it nearly very day. What is happening now is that.some courts are overturning the basic principle that previous decisions should be followed and upheld in similar circumstances. It gives people and society the ability to have a stable predictable legal system that.promotes smooth functioning, predictable and consistent legal process.
 


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Never be loyal to a large company. Its silly. There is no reciprocity.
To me it isn't loyalty so much. I think the cars are cooler and the Dodge trucks look better. It is isn't a chevy either:poop:
 


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Did you fail to notice that Tim's quote about the Demon not coming back is from June 2019? After the Demons were sold out? So if you're saying you bought a Demon in 2018 because Tim told you it wasn't coming back then you're either a liar or your therapist has put repressed memories into your brain.
Nice going why don’t you just tell everyone on this forum how you feel. It’s real good way to get others to interact peacefully. Don’t hold back now. There is a clinical definition for that approach it’s called Tourette Syndome and can get out off hand if used too much.

1971 Demon can get cantankerous occasionally but a liar no way last guy on this forum to be that!
 


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Did you fail to notice that Tim's quote about the Demon not coming back is from June 2019? After the Demons were sold out? So if you're saying you bought a Demon in 2018 because Tim told you it wasn't coming back then you're either a liar or your therapist has put repressed memories into your brain.
I bought in 18 for what the car represented...was never concerned with what was..or was not going to be offered in the future...
 


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Nice going why don’t you just tell everyone on this forum how you feel. It’s real good way to get others to interact peacefully. Don’t hold back now.
If everyone told everyone else how they felt this country would be a better place. I'd rather have honest talk than insincere talk.

There is a clinical definition for that approach it’s called Tourette Syndome and can get out off hand if used too much.
Tourette Syndome is a medical condition where involuntary speech occurs. My speech is intentional.
 


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I bought in 18 for what the car represented...was never concerned with what was..or was not going to be offered in the future...
Sorry, the "you" wasn't intended for you, it was the "Tim lied" people.
 


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Honestly, just open the DC catalog with all the parts on this Demon.

I'll buy a 2015 and get to work. Better yet, maybe I buy a Magnum and do it.
No more protected parts just sell the shit out of the stuff.

Easier than putting up with a dealer.
 


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~8,000-10,000 Demon170 units should do nicely
Had they been able to release this car in 2022, I think they probably would have built this many. COVID really screwed a lot of plans up.​
 


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Free marketplace my ass....
 


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Free marketplace my ass....
Seems like your state's AG would be a good place to start.
 




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