Jon's Hellcat

[Hpindy]

Unfortunately my pinion snubber doesn't have the same effect on these cars.

I think I have one of them in-stock too

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[Hpindy]

My experience is the opposite, I use to spin 50/50, removed the SB & it hooks 95/5 now depending on prep.

Every challenger i watch at the track with no front swaybar has the exact same reaction . Lift the front quickly then fall back down quickly unloading the rear tires .. it amplified as the power level goes up or track prep goes down.

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[moparjim]

Every challenger i watch at the track with no front swaybar has the exact same reaction . Lift the front quickly then fall back down quickly unloading the rear tires .. it amplified as the power level goes up or track prep goes down.

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I agree in my 10.0 post you see my car rise and fall and rise a bit again.
Funny when I have the sway bar in people are almost positive I'm getting air. I'm not but it kinda looks like it. Nobody says that when the bar is out.

 

[Hpindy]

I agree in my 10.0 post you see my car rise and fall and rise a bit again.
Funny when I have the sway bar in people are almost positive I'm getting air. I'm not but it kinda looks like it. Nobody says that when the bar is out.

It's a good thing you have the master of track prep or you would be struggling too .

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[Mean Cat]

Every challenger i watch at the track with no front swaybar has the exact same reaction . Lift the front quickly then fall back down quickly unloading the rear tires .. it amplified as the power level goes up or track prep goes down.

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I don't doubt what you say, but when I did the 2.85 pulley I had traction problems, removing the sway bar cured it for me. I do run my suspension in sport which will keep it tighter. I also run 315's which has more of a rake than with 305's.
I think I'll try it back on to see what happens.

 

[DavidKFla]

You Challenger guys seem to have a bunch of traction problems.

 

[Mean Cat]

I agree in my 10.0 post you see my car rise and fall and rise a bit again.
Funny when I have the sway bar in people are almost positive I'm getting air. I'm not but it kinda looks like it. Nobody says that when the bar is out.

So your 10.07 was with no sway bar ?

 

[Mean Cat]

You Challenger guys seem to have a bunch of traction problems.

Yeah, guess we're too light, vs Charger guys.

 

[Hpindy]

I don't doubt what you say, but when I did the 2.85 pulley I had traction problems, removing the sway bar cured it for me. I do run my suspension in sport which will keep it tighter. I also run 315's which has more of a rake than with 305's.
I think I'll try it back on to see what happens.

That might be the difference. Most people run in street mode to get weight transfer. That works on the front but it too soft for the back .... In sport the rear is now stiffer but removing the front swaybar may help with the weight transfer.. I can't test this as i have drag mode in my car ..

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[Hpindy]

You Challenger guys seem to have a bunch of traction problems.

Not in drag mode

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[Mean Cat]

That might be the difference. Most people run in street mode to get weight transfer. That works on the front but it too soft for the back .... In sport the rear is now stiffer but removing the front swaybar may help with the weight transfer.. I can't test this as i have drag mode in my car ..

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I think so too, & with the ass end up higher with the 315 tire vs 305 tire car sits more level, it has a harder time lifting the back tire to unload it.

 

[Hickster]

I have kow problems ass golds the road. Here we go again but I will take oile schoollie vs powder schooling,,, M6 they way.

 

[Hpindy]

I think so too, & with the ass end up higher with the 315 tire vs 305 tire car sits more level, it has a harder time lifting the back tire to unload it.

The taller tire is definitely better .. I found a huge difference going from the 305 to the 315 ..

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[DavidKFla]

Yeah, guess we're too light, vs Charger guys.

Yea, when mine was weighed it was 4614 without me in it.

 

[Hickster]

The latter tire took my 1 took over the line ha, fat ass. Dave stick to that vegetarian diet like the prock to gisst ump sasys so,,, good since 1991.

 

[Mean Cat]

Yea, when mine was weighed it was 4614 without me in it.

Wow, that is heavy & you prob. 200 +.
At track weight I'm normally at 4400, give or take a little with me in it. That's still heavy too.

 

[DavidKFla]

Wow, that is heavy & you prob. 200 +.
At track weight I'm normally at 4400, give or take a little with me in it. That's still heavy too.

4614 + 245 = 4859. It's a fully optioned car.

I forgot that at MSHS Orlando I had 100 lbs of rocks in the trunk to try and slow it down.

 

[moparjim]

So your 10.07 was with no sway bar ?

Yes it was, as I mentioned before I thought it was in. 🤣 Not that it affects et. In my case it slows down the launch so if anything it might have slowed the car.
Last weekend I found out the gas in the car sucks. I had a 1.2 volts on the knock sensors. Nothing scary. But knowing that we still have winter gas I added a can of ms109 and the second pass on that mix was my quickest and fastest of the day in warmer weather and higher DA. Unfortunately I erased the log so I can't see for sure if that was the case. I will find out Saturday I guess.

 

[Hickster]

I wood say after smashing into that crap mini fan hook to the front fender,,, me cooking at at,4,200 lbs at a stop not vs 8 mph then that wood pro tude me into a milk shake or a veggie pizza and sum shine. Got 15 minutes on the pizza. Taking notes. Or ahi tuna????

 

[Hickster]

Still didn't know John had a H/C,, by know he may snot. I do and it is at the dealer shits with me to advise them of put tires and wheeles or not. Just a $1,300 price tag. all 4 not too bad. Still have to July to warranty time is up. 5 year extended warranty worth every penny. I did it write fer a change. My Kats wood be proud.