“Is V8 a bad word? No,” Have we announced anything? No, but we’re just getting started.” - Dodge CEO

[1971demon]

Ya gotta love the guy

Yet early polls indicate an approval rating of not quite 60%....can 40% of the American people STILL be brain dead

 

[2ndAmend]

YES!

 

[mopar madness]

I dont think dodge can compete with M tbh.

They have too much money over there in Germany, add the fact that people will pay big money for a bmw but won't for a dodge and you have a recipe for a failure.

Dodges real claim to fame was 700hp at around 70k. The original hellcat was so popular because of how reasonably priced it was.

Also that s58 motor is built different.

Stock block is good for an additional 200-300 hp over stock.

Some of those built motor s58s are doing 60-130 in the 3 seconds. All it takes to build em is drop in rods, head studs and a built trans.

60-130 in the 3 second range is 1300whp gtr/ twin turbo huracan & r8 fast.

The new m3/m4 is basically the new gtr, these things are gonna be king of the track as they get more affordable.

These xdrive cars have been out since 2022 and are already in the 7s. Crazy progress in a few years.

is there any comparisons with the M4 and the Giulia? that would give you a comparison on their turbo I sixes