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Yes, Noonan makes it, TKM has exclusive rights to sell it so it and build it. No one can source that other than TKM. For most bro a 244 lb block is crazy heavy compared to an aluminum. 120 lbs off the front end is HUGE! Thats a tenth.

U keep saying the Aluminum block wont hold much power do u have any experience with this or is that just what one shop told u? I have yet to see anyone try to make any big hp with an Aluminum block so how do u know how much power they can handle?

FYI for everyone:

Demon Performance collaborated with Noonan to develop their own version of the billet aluminum Gen3 Hemi block. This is not a TKM block. Instead, Noonan and Demon Performance partnered and invested in the R&D and manufacturing of their Gen3 Hemi block.

Demon Performance has an exclusive partnership with TKM to build these Noonan blocks specifically for their customers.

Then there is Visner which creates their version of the billet aluminum and will sell to any engine builder to build their customer's engines.
 


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Yes, Noonan makes it, TKM has exclusive rights to sell it so it and build it. No one can source that other than TKM. For most bro a 244 lb block is crazy heavy compared to an aluminum. 120 lbs off the front end is HUGE! Thats a tenth.

U keep saying the Aluminum block wont hold much power do u have any experience with this or is that just what one shop told u? I have yet to see anyone try to make any big hp with an Aluminum block so how do u know how much power they can handle?
Have you ever talked to Skip at Demon Performance or Darryl at Noonan? Were are you getting your facts from? The $10K Dart Block website? Can you post the link of where you saw Dart Gen3 Hemi blocks selling for $10k?

As far as "TKM has exclusive rights to sell it so it and build it. No one can source that other than TKM. ":
  1. It is Demon Performance R&D (funded) and Noonan makes the blocks
  2. Demon Performance has selling rights for so many years before Noonan can sell them exclusively
  3. TKM is the engine builder for Demon Performance for these blocks and that's all
  4. TKM can NOT sell these blocks to anyone except if Skip at Demon Performance allows it
  5. Thus we buy the blocks from Demon Performance and TKM builds them as their partnership with Demon Performance
  6. End of Story, these are the facts

I said CAST Aluminum blocks (Callies) can not hold over 2k HP.

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Not Noonan or Visner BILLET Aluminum blocks.

Have you ever been to a track where Rob Goss is running a BILLET Aluminum Visner block or talked to Josh at HHP that partners with Rob Goss?
Robb G. makes a ton of power with the Visner BILLET block. But not my right to talk about his build or his power numbers. Any smart person can watch him run LDR and guess his curb weight and then calculate the amount of power.

Talking to owners of these companies and being at the track learning will make us all smarted about this platform.

As far as losing 120 lbs will gain a tenth. Agreed, but once our heavy cars hit the 7's and getting closer to 6's...start reducing more and more weight to get a tenth off.
This calculator will show how much weigh to reduce to get a tenth off your ET: http://wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php
 




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