Tim Kuniskis on AutoLine

[Speedy!]

Then why didn't Tim simply decline to promote it. It's not like he needs the money? I'd have rather gone down in history as the guy who brought the Demon, not the one who ended the V8.

 

[jroyk]

Then why didn't Tim simply decline to promote it. It's not like he needs the money? I'd have rather gone down in history as the guy who brought the Demon, not the one who ended the V8.

For some folks, whatever money they have is never enough.

 

[Jack_Toepfer]

For some folks, whatever money they have is never enough.

Or like anywhere else in corporate America, “you do it or we will find someone that will”.

When all is said and done maybe we will be thanking Tim for making the EV Charger as cool as he could because at the end of the day if he walked out, some other idiot would have been put in his place and probably would have given us a shitty Hornet or something.

 

[DavidKFla]

Or like anywhere else in corporate America, “you do it or we will find someone that will”.

When all is said and done maybe we will be thanking Tim for making the EV Charger as cool as he could because at the end of the day if he walked out, some other idiot would have been put in his place and probably would have given us a shitty Hornet or something.

He's being told what to do. I'm not sure if he really knows what's going on in the end.

 

[Jack_Toepfer]

He's being told what to do. I'm not sure if he really knows what's going on in the end.

That’s how it goes.
The bean counters still rule the day there… we were very lucky to get Hellcats, and if they weren’t great cars it would have been a huge failure for Tim but also a lesson to Ford and Chevy that the horsepower wars were over.
When EVs don’t sell, hopefully that message is heard loud and clear too.

 

[DavidKFla]

That’s how it goes.
The bean counters still rule the day there… we were very lucky to get Hellcats, and if they weren’t great cars it would have been a huge failure for Tim but also a lesson to Ford and Chevy that the horsepower wars were over.
When EVs don’t sell, hopefully that message is heard loud and clear too.

The gubberment $$$ will make up the difference. That and building less cars for a higher profit.

Dealerships will dwindle in numbers until you can only order and buy direct.

You will have to get an approval before you can order.

Regional repair centers will be where you can get any work done.

All this if we allow these fucks to continue.

 

[Speedy!]

Just because a company tells you to do something doesn't mean you have to do it. I'd have told them find someone else.

 

[DavidKFla]

Just because a company tells you to do something doesn't mean you have to do it. I'd have told them find someone else.

I agree 100% and I have done exactly that. This is why I'm self employed.

 

[Magnified]

I give credit to Tim for the idea of the Demon. That was his baby.

I give credit to Stellantis for forcing the EV. That was their baby.

Let's give credit where credit is due. Tim is not the reason the EV came to Dodge...

I don't think all of us are saying that. And if nothing else, he had a hand in the Hellcat, which I personally feel was much more influential than the Demon for the average owner and enthusiast.

 

[Magnified]

Just because a company tells you to do something doesn't mean you have to do it. I'd have told them find someone else.

While I agree with this to a point, I also hesitate to suggest courses of action for others when I do not know all the considerations they're having to deal with. At his level it likely would not have been possible to lateral into a similar position in another car company because of non-compete and NDA limitations; he may want to try and climb into the upper levels of Stellantis for various reasons, etc.... The value I would set on those may be different than what he does but I don't think I can criticize it without more. Maybe without him it might have been worse.

 

[DavidKFla]

While I agree with this to a point, I also hesitate to suggest courses of action for others when I do not know all the considerations they're having to deal with. At his level it likely would not have been possible to lateral into a similar position in another car company because of non-compete and NDA limitations; he may want to try and climb into the upper levels of Stellantis for various reasons, etc.... The value I would set on those may be different than what he does but I don't think I can criticize it without more. Maybe without him it might have been worse.

It gets down to your basic moral compass.

Either you don't care or you do.

Bottom line.

 

[Speedy!]

Can't get any worse lmao

 

[Jack_Toepfer]

Again, if Tim didn’t do it, some other schmuck would have. I believe that Tim made the best EV he could because Dodge was going to make it with or without him.
Did you guys see the Ralph Giles reveal? We could have been dealing with that.

 

[Magnified]

Which one specifically?

 

[Speedy!]

Then let some other schmuck. Again I'd rather have been remembered for the Demon, but that's just me.

 

[Jack_Toepfer]

Can’t disagree with that, that’s an accomplishment he can be proud of.

 

[Magnified]

Which one specifically?

I mean the gilles reveal

 

[1971demon]

Just because a company tells you to do something doesn't mean you have to do it. I'd have told them find someone else.

I dunno...I'd be willing to bet that's one hefty paycheck he'd be walkin away from...

 

[DavidKFla]

I dunno...I'd be willing to bet that's one hefty paycheck he'd be walkin away from...

If all that you're concerned about in life is money then you stay. Otherwise you move on. Personally, I don't compromise who and what I am.

 

[1971demon]

If all that you're concerned about in life is money then you stay. Otherwise you move on. Personally, I don't compromise who and what I am.

Obviously...yer not Tim...