Ultra Performance All Seasons VS Max Performance Summer

[ThaBeast]

I've googled this several times but I must not be using the correct key words. I'd like to know the difference in traction of a DWS06 vs ExtremeContact Sport or Pilot Sport All Season 4 VS Pilot Sport 4S. Is dry traction 20% better with summer tires? 10%? I see the all seasons have a treadwear of around 540 and the summer tires around 300. Trying to decide if having 2 sets of tires is worth it to me. I know max dry traction is on drag radials but I drive this car too often to run DR's

EDIT: car doesn't see any snow, just some colder temps and occasionally get caught in the rain

 

[why2kmax]

IF no snow and not driving through winter, Id get summers. Ive never had an AS tire that had better traction than its 3 season counterpart. Summer tires will always grip better but you likely wont find a tire that doesnt spin at all. Summers are only good down to about 40-ish deg. Be careful then because the rubber gets hard and slippery.

 

[EricG]

I would just run a max performance summer tire and yes the Michelins are great!

 

[ThaBeast]

IF no snow and not driving through winter, Id get summers. Ive never had an AS tire that had better traction than its 3 season counterpart. Summer tires will always grip better but you likely wont find a tire that doesnt spin at all. Summers are only good down to about 40-ish deg. Be careful then because the rubber gets hard and slippery.

I realize the all season have less dry traction, the question is, how much less? I had multiple sets of tires & wheels for my gt500, fully aware of the 40 degree threshold on summer compound tires.

 

[JRabq]

I live in the desert sw, but we definitely get freezing in winter. Since I daily drive the HC in the winter on dry days, one set of summer tires is out for me. So I have the stock A/Ss for winter. I bought a set Cont ECSs...stock width up front but went to wider HR5s for wheels with 305s on the rear. Quantifying the difference is difficult. But my wifes Charger HC on stock A/Ss spin at will summer or winter. Back to back...hers on A/Ss vs my Challenger HC on summers is huge using the butt meter. I don't have objective numbers to share, but my impression is the difference is huge and worth it!

 

[NoCoHC]

I bought a set of Continental DWS06 tires for my Boss 302 last year when I got it. They are great on the street. I think I'm going to try and catch an open lapping day sometime this month and will probably just keep them on the car since I haven't really been to the track/autocross this year in the COVID world so don't want to buy another set of wheels/tires this close to the end of the year. I'll post how they do after the track day. I don't think they'll be great, but it should still be fun.

 

[EricG]

I realize the all season have less dry traction, the question is, how much less? I had multiple sets of tires & wheels for my gt500, fully aware of the 40 degree threshold on summer compound tires.

I agree with @JRabq that the difference in traction is significant going from an all season tire to a dedicated summer tire. I live in ABQ too and it drops below freezing a lot in the morning during the cold season, but I've driven with summer tires and drag radials through our winter and I really don't think they are that bad. Definitely not unsafe. It is dry here almost all the time though which makes a big difference. All season tires suck in the winter too for these cars IMO, but if you have to drive through a lot of weather you may have to run with them. If your Hellcat is only basically on dry roads I would not even consider all season. My 2 cents...